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De vez en cuando, me doy cuenta de que pronuncio ciertas palabras en español en una forma, bueno, incorrecta. Por ejemplo, en "eslabón", la 's' se convierte en una 'z' inglesa; en "pared", la 'd' se convierte en una 'th' inglesa suave (como "there"); en cualquier palabra que tenga "ng", la 'n' se convierte a la 'n' nasal. Me pica el cerebro porque no sé si esto es común entre hispanoparlantes, entre ecuatorianos, entre gente bilingüe, o si esto nada más me pasa a mí.

Date: 2004-03-16 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deirdremoon.livejournal.com
Lo siento, pero no recuerdo el espanol para comprenderlo. Pero, creo que este es interesante. :) (and although my Spanish is horrible, I usually enjoy linguistics, so from what I *can* read, I'd love to hear this en Ingles tambien.)

Date: 2004-03-16 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palecur.livejournal.com
He's talking about his ongoing continence problems.

Date: 2004-03-16 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palecur.livejournal.com
No me he dado cuenta de manera formal cuales (dammit, the 'compose' key on this Sun keyboard is supposed to fuse the ' and the a into an accented a', but it is FAILING) cosas pronuncio de manera equivocada, pero he notado que mi ligero acento se ha mejorado bastante desde que estan nuestros padres de visita.

Date: 2004-03-16 04:04 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
¿Dónde está mi pañal?

Date: 2004-03-16 04:10 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Debo notar que esto no es algo reciente; he estado usando estas pronunciaciones desde que vivíamos en Ecuador. Estoy seguro de que Francisco también decía "pareth".

Also, try á for the accented vowel.

Date: 2004-03-16 04:12 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
I'm basically complaining about mispronouncing things in Spanish. It's been with me for a long time, so it's not a recent, "going gringo" thing, and i don't know how common it is.

Date: 2004-03-16 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peglegpete.livejournal.com
Via Babelfish...

", I occur to account of that I pronounce certain words in Spanish in a form, good, once in a while incorrect. For example, "link", ' s' becomes one ' z' English; "wall", ' d' becomes one ' th' English smooth (like "there"); any word that has "ng", ' n' becomes to ' n' nasal. It pricks the brain to me because I do not know if this is common between Spanish-speaking, between Ecuadorian, between bilingual people, or if this nothing else happens to me to me."

It pricks the brain to me... absolutely beautiful.

Do you prick your brain at me, sir?
I do prick my brain, sir.

Date: 2004-03-16 04:34 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (anime - (c) 2002 jim vandewalker)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
If i prick my brain, do my thoughts not leak?

Date: 2004-03-16 04:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] damienw
I reckon that to some extent your accent as described is sharing certain features with modern Castilian. So maybe this gradually drifting to effete nasal lithping is just a meme that hangs around hispanophones. Or maybe it's just you.

(I didn't know I could kinda read Spanish. Woo. Spooky.)

Date: 2004-03-16 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peglegpete.livejournal.com
I don't think that's your thoughts that are leaking.

Date: 2004-03-16 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samantha2074.livejournal.com
We learned Castillian? Spanish in high school (my teacher went to Spain every summer to keep his language skills up) and were taught that in many, if not most, contexts the "d" was pronounced as "th." I don't recall anything about a s->z transfer however.

It's a testament to my teacher that I can pretty much understand your post thirteen years after having studied the language.

Date: 2004-03-16 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deirdremoon.livejournal.com
How do you say, "Dude, give me a *little* credit" en espanol? :)

Date: 2004-03-17 12:32 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
You can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick.

Date: 2004-03-17 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opadit.livejournal.com
común entre hispanoparlantes

I read that as hippopotamuses

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