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[livejournal.com profile] dennisperrin:

Like so many liberals, numerous reactionaries appear to believe that Obama's not a willing servant of capital and empire, but that he harbors a secret self, saying what he must in order to be elected.  Come Inauguration Day, the Real Obama emerges, which for liberals is a progressive patriot channeling FDR, and for right wingers, a treasonous surrendercrat, wiping Iranian and North Korean asses with Old Glory.

Date: 2008-09-25 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blarglefiend.livejournal.com
A lot of lefties in Australia thought Kevin Rudd was just saying what he had to say to get elected -- he basically set himself up to be as close to his opponent as possible -- but guess what? It turns out he really is a conservative.

I strongly recommend assuming that the guy is telling you what he thinks, not what he thinks you want to hear, and vote accordingly. If he was lying about this stuff then someone in his own party would've outed him by now.

Date: 2008-09-25 01:14 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
You had me until the last sentence. We're talking about the Democratic Party here.

Date: 2008-09-25 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blarglefiend.livejournal.com
You're seriously suggesting that they're so disciplined that there's nobody who wouldn't sabotage the candidate if they knew he was lying about being, say, centrist when he's really a Marxist?

I thought the Democratic Party was famous for shooting itself in the foot...

Date: 2008-09-25 01:20 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Oh, certainly, but that sort of sabotage takes at least one of three things: balls, guts, a spine. It's not discipline; it's a sort of mild cowardice.

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