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> What is "podcast" compared to "MP3 for download on some kind of RSS
> feed" anyway?

That description only captures the facts and completely misses the
self-congratulatory wankfest.  Podcasts are nothing without the "we're
changing the world and are at the forefront of technology" wankfest.

Thank you, [livejournal.com profile] allbery.

Date: 2006-08-22 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunburn.livejournal.com
*WILD APPLAUSE*

Date: 2006-08-22 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerri9494.livejournal.com
I'm no more gruntled than you. That was brilliant.

If only there were one for the Web 2.0 wankfest, the Rails wankfest, and the "I'm a little twenty-something and look! I just invented the intarweb" wankfest, I'd be fully wanked out.

Date: 2006-08-22 03:29 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (invincirone)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Well, i already issued my Web 2.0 condemnation (http://ronebofh.livejournal.com/328073.html). Putting Rails down could be accomplished with a good Mussolini reference. However, there's nothing (or too much) to do about smug twenty-somethings.

Date: 2006-08-22 11:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
Wait for them to get ten years older then point and laugh?

Why wait?

Date: 2006-08-22 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vardissakheli.livejournal.com
Sic the even more brilliant teenagers on them now.

Date: 2006-08-22 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erikred.livejournal.com
I was thinking the exact same thing this morning, but his phrasing is so much more poignant.

Date: 2006-08-22 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltempt.livejournal.com
You ignorant git. Didn't you know that Apple invented the concept of digital music? Didn't you know that the iPod was the first mp3 anything, ever? Really?

Wankers. The iPod is lame enough and anyone using the term "podcast" isn't just a wanker, they're a stupid wanker.

Blame the entire thing on the whole Apple culture. You don't buy and enjoy a product, you're expected to join some sort of cult. The cultists who can't understand why you don't use your crappy Powerbook anymore because it's another example of overpriced underbuilt failing technology, and the same cultists that bounce up and down because Apple apparently invented this amazing way of connecting discs to your machine that uses, like, OPTICAL FIBRE, man, like, how cool is, like that? *bangs head against SureStore tray*. Yes, the actually came up with this line while staring vacuously at two FCAL hubs and an FCAL JBOD.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lusercop.livejournal.com
Isn't it just like those who think they're changing the world through the blogosphere?

Date: 2006-08-23 12:19 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (grumpy)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Yeah, i already went through that one (http://ronebofh.livejournal.com/108232.html).

Date: 2006-08-23 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lusercop.livejournal.com
Fair enough, I have the memory of a goldfish!

Date: 2006-08-23 02:21 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (cornholio)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Hey, it's not easy keeping up with all the shit i bitch about.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haineux.livejournal.com
It was a month or two ago that it finally dawned on me that for the vast majority of cases, a "podcast" is someone READING their crappy livejournal OUT LOUD. Why the FUCK would I want that? Would it somehow convey something other than the fact that the "podcaster" is a mouthbreather with bad grammar and an adenoidal voice caused by bowel retention?

At least with the video podcast, you can pretend to poke them in the eyes with your cursor.

I need a gizmo that lets you crush their heads with the cursor.

Date: 2006-08-23 12:20 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why i haven't made a voice post on my journal. If i'm going to use a different medium, i'd like to use that medium's unique features, otherwise it's a waste.

Date: 2006-08-23 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com
Your cow-orker Maciej already said everything there is to say on the subject. As a podcast, thus illustrating the point nicely.

http://www.idlewords.com/2004/08/an_audioblogging_manifesto.htm

I actually like podcasts because, as a LA-to-SF driver, I frequently find myself in occasions where I can listen but I can't read. I quite enjoy time-shifted radio, which some but not all podcasts are. Conversely, the Digg Podast annoys me quite a bit since they're basically reading URLs off a screen and laughing at visual stuff I can't see.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:59 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Can I just take this opportunity to say ... "folksonomy"!

Date: 2006-08-22 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com
'Podcast' is more concise and easier to say than, 'MP3 for download on some kind of RSS feed.' Why should we be content with the term 'MP3 for download on some kind of RSS feed'? Since we are noting a specific combination of medium, delivery and usage, we can either settle for having to detail these every time we need to be that specific, or we can resort to jargon.

If I was in charge of speech I would try to coin something less timely than an unauthorized tie-in to the hot consumer item of the shopping season. The past dozen years of neophilia has not been easy on the English language. But podcasts are a persistent format, love 'em or hate 'em -- personally, I haven't found one that didn't make me mourn the time wasted.

At least 'Podcast' does not use 'blog' as a root word.

But I do have to tip my hat to the guy who posted his family's vacation photos on Flickr and got Cory Doctorow to link to them only because the guy used the words 'photoblog' and 'Disneyworld'. Not that yanking Cory's chain is all that hard, but I'd have expected him to see through that.

Date: 2006-08-22 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
The two podcasts I listen to are both music programs: [livejournal.com profile] jwgh's periodic performances and They Might Be Giants' sporadic online show. The talking kind are just amateur talk radio, and I don't go much for talk radio.

But I like my iPod and I like those two podcasts, and I'm not going to stop listening to either because somebody else is a wanker.

Date: 2006-08-22 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunburn.livejournal.com
I listen to a handful of podcasts which are just archive radio shows, either from the BBC or local public radio. In some cases, they call them podcasts despite the lack of a feed; they're just an MP3 available for download, period. And in most cases this is the same service they've offered for years, but now, as above, the hosts of the shows get to bleat that they're cutting edge with a podcast.

Naturally there's a disclaimer that you don't need to have an iPod to use a podcast.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
Personally I don't have a problem with the term "podcast", I mean it's good to have a word for it, it's all the people acting like this is somehow NEW that cheese me.

For more head-explody fun, Google "Library 2.0". Word to my professional colleagues: THIS IS NOT MAKING US LOOK HIP, PEOPLE.

Date: 2006-08-22 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pentomino.livejournal.com
I think you're over-demonizing the word. "Podcast" is a word because "MP3 for download on some kind of RSS feed" is too bloody long for something that people do so often. And it has "RSS" in it. Your grandmother is sick of learning alphabet-soup names. If she saks what it stands for, don't tell her the real answer!

All of my podcasts are currently either real radio programs, or exiled TechTV personalities.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omarius.livejournal.com
AFFIRMATIVE.

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