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Dear [livejournal.com profile] dr_strych9: please supplement my arguments against real-time blackhole lists with this delightful story about a blackhole list that came back to life fifteen months after its death and caused all its subscribers' incoming mail to bounce.

Date: 2008-03-26 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] also-huey.livejournal.com
the history of RBLs has not been one of stability or respect

I don't think that's entirely fair. I'll grant you that the history of RBLs run by shitheads hasn't been one of stability or respect, but several (most notably Spamhaus and the CBL) are both well-run, mostly transparent, and generally not insulting except in the face of categorical stupidity. But to lump folks like Linford, and even Vixie and Rand, in the same category as complete fuckin snapperheads like Alan Brown, Ron Fucking Guilmette, Joe Jared and Brian (or Brielle, apparently) Bruns - that's apples and oranges. The folks in the former group are running a business that tries to help preserve the utility of email, while the guys in the latter are just waving penises.

Date: 2008-03-26 03:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
I was getting all het up about you calling Spamhaus well-run until i realized that i was thinking about SpamCop.

Date: 2008-03-26 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] also-huey.livejournal.com
Believe it or not, Spamcop largely got unfucked a couple years back, when it stopped being run by Julian and started being run by Ironport. I too used to enjoy the whuppin-on-Spamcop, but after Petersen took over, holy crap, they fixed it. AFI has statistics (http://www.dnsbl.com/2007/05/spamcop-bl-another-look-its-accurate.html).

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