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My copy of Civilization IV Special Edition arrived today.  This should keep me busy during the time where i would normally be working...

Date: 2005-11-30 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thingamarob.livejournal.com
What about "American McGee." I've seen her name on a number of boxes. She must be just fabulous, what, being a woman and a game designer.

Date: 2005-11-30 08:08 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (bowler)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
It sounds like you're trolling me, but i'll just go ahead and point out that American McGee is a dude to save my more impressionable readers.

apologies

Date: 2005-11-30 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thingamarob.livejournal.com
Trolling was unintended. I really thought that he was a woman and that they were making a big marketing show of "hey look, a woman is responsible for this game." Don't really know why I thought it was a woman.

Date: 2005-11-30 10:34 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (bowler)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
There is a woman out there who was involved with Doom, i think. She has bountiful pontoons and does not hide her light under a bushel, if you know what i mean. She was on the cover of PC Gamer a year or two ago.

Date: 2005-12-01 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thingamarob.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that's where I got the idea because I remember a hot redheaded chick on the cover. But beside her picture was "American McGee" writ muy large. The sad thing is that I even read the articles on both of them. This is what happens when I try to be cute. I'm going back under my bridge now. I keep accidentally posting anonymously. Oops.

Date: 2005-12-02 01:30 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (monterey)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Lucky for you i screen anonymous comments so nobody knows what you've done... until you admit it publicly. D'oh!

I'm betting American McGee was next to her. Ah well. I'd check, but i threw out my old PC Gamers last year.

Date: 2005-12-06 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com
oh yeah, that chick was dating whatsisname the guy who did Die Katana, the worst game ever that took the longest... another wonderful, wonderful story though - reading about the failure of that company to produce. So many things that, as a manager working with people, you look at and say 'oh GOD no... don't... no do NOT shoot the bazooka in the plane, no do not DO that... you shot the ... this is why I have a parachute. No, I'm not selling you mine, f* off.

Anyway I understand eventually they got married or something, from what someone else in the industry told me. They may, however, have gotten divorced, or not married and she eventually got married to someone else...

John Romero. That was his name. First has-been of the industry, and well deserved.

Date: 2005-12-05 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com
Well, huh... back when the wonderful oldmanmurray was up, her name came up - a LOT. But. Never mentioned she was female. And, well, it doens't on her website anywhere, either, so I'd never have known - and don't really - unless this is true.

But overall, I guess that actually points out something kinda good about oldmanmurray and similar game industry sites that various game industry workers have pointed me to - it doens't MATTER whether you're female or male. Or once male and now female (and unfortunately, dead.)

(the latter is a reference to one of the greatest designers of games ever, the designer of M.U.L.E and 7 cities of gold and so on, Dan(i) Bunten.)

Which is sort of where I have been alluding to this whole thread (yes rejoining late, sorry about that, don't know if anyone will read it.) But Dan(i) had some very interesting non-violent parts of his/her game design, and kept to that angle when pressure was on to do things like make M.U.L.E with weapons. (s)He knew that would change the game balance completely, and ruin it; and stuck to her guns - and yes, she worked with EA and other people. Heck EA wouldn't be who they were today if it weren't for her.

But, interesting that American MacGee is a woman. No, not surprizing, why not? But, yeah, interesting. Gives Alice a bit of a twist I didn't know about. Alisk had some twisted parts that were just spectacular early on... 'the door' is just a great spot (:

Date: 2005-12-05 11:41 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (monterey)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
You should really read all the other comments before you add to the conversation, you know.

Date: 2005-12-06 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com
Well, crap, I'm going thru emails cuz a friend asked me to please review this bit he's writing comparing operating systems for the University math department, and I'm noting I have a deluge of back comments, and...


Yeah I should but I was in a hurry, I'll assume I screwed up big there. LJ of course sends with 'reply to' so I missed everything else other than mine (:

my bad

Date: 2005-12-06 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thingamarob.livejournal.com
You'll see where I was mistaken about this later in the thread. Something to do with a magazine and a confusing headline and I think there might've been a talking caterpillar in there somewhere too. Just one more example of my propagating misinformation. Sorry.

Re: my bad

Date: 2005-12-06 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com
Oh well, I finally got around to my point about Dan(i) in my reply (:

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