rone | PLONK POR TROLL!!

I've run into my first news.groups-like flamewar on esp.* (allbery is, without doubt, feeling some small amount of schadenfreude right now). Right now, esp.binarios.discusion, which purpose is to discuss the binaries being posted to the rest of the esp.binarios.* hierarchy, is overwhelmed with spam, off-topic content, and flames generated by the off-topic content. So now people want a new newsgroup, but there's a lot of whining and sabotaging going on. I've demanded that interested parties e-mail me their position, just so i can make some sense out of it all, because i am not going to wade through their crap. Now i just have to find the time to read it and make an executive decision.