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Mar. 2nd, 2004 11:32 pm
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Didn't vote. Don't care about the results. Don't wanna know. I should be disgusted with myself, but i'm not.

Date: 2004-03-03 08:45 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (sunflower)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Please, my journal is a "no false dichotomies" zone.

Date: 2004-03-03 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
This fall's election will be no different than the last one. You either vote for the Democratic nominee, or you might as well vote for Bush.

I didn't make the rules, and I don't like 'em, but I'm stuck in the game, and I'd rather not lose.

Lose more of my civil rights, for example.

So, go ahead, vote your conscience. But be aware of the consequences.

Date: 2004-03-03 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palecur.livejournal.com
If it's any consolation, California is a pretty much a dead lock for Kerry (thanks, SF and LA, for monkeyfucking whatever the rest of the state wants), so it's not like rone's unKerry or my Bush vote will matter all that much.

Date: 2004-03-03 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
But, you see, I'd like to think that all votes matter (didn't the closeness of the 2000 election prove that? A few thousand Nader votes in New Hampshire, a few hundred votes, period, in Florida...).

I'd like to think that the mere act of voting matters.

I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone not to vote for Bush. If they don't understand the danger he poses by now, there's nothing I can do to change their minds.

But anyone opposed to Bush who does not vote for the Democratic nominee really is wasting their vote, and cavalierly committing the country to four more years of destructive economic and social policies.

Date: 2004-03-03 04:49 pm (UTC)
jwgh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jwgh
I lived through the 2000 election too, but I came to very different conclusions.

Date: 2004-03-03 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
Rational or irrational, our conclusions are the same.

Vote.

Date: 2004-03-03 05:00 pm (UTC)
jwgh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jwgh
OK, but one difference is that my conclusion doesn't include demonizing people who come to other conclusions.

Date: 2004-03-03 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
Well, aren't you special?

The people who came to other conclusions in 2000 are responsible for our current political and economic situation. They deserve a little demonization.

Date: 2004-03-03 05:14 pm (UTC)
jwgh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jwgh
Yeah, I guess what the world really needs is a lot more arrogance. People always eat that stuff right up.

Date: 2004-03-03 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
Perhaps you are mistaking anger for arrogance.

Date: 2004-03-03 12:22 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (excitable)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
If i don't vote for Kerry, he gets m votes. If i do, it becomes m+1. In either case, Bush receives n. In no way is my non-Kerry vote a vote for Bush. That's just arithmetic.

Loss of civil rights? Gee, i think a lot of Democrats voted for the PATRIOT Act.

And i don't need to be lectured on the consequences of my actions.

Date: 2004-03-03 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
I beg to differ. But I'm done for the day.

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