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... and, naturally, he gets pilloried by evangelical Christians. It is amusing to see these utter wackjobs dump on Bush because he's not a theologian, then proceed to betray their complete ignorance in theological matters. I find the Rev. Peterson's evasion downright disappointing; a friend commented, "Grow some balls, Brenda, you stupid bitch." A-friggin'-men.

Date: 2003-11-27 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-autoclave.livejournal.com
Dude, SOME evangelical christians. It's a matter of no debate that Allah and Elohim essential mean the same thing (most high god, or words to that effect) the El/Al parts pretty much directly correspond. Unless Bush tried to suggest that Muslims (submitted/surrendered ones) worship Jesus then he's at least partly right.

It's also a matter of agreement between Jews, Christians and Muslims that the Isaac/Ishmael divergence in Abraham's descendents is where everything starts to get tense. None of these traditions would try to argue that Abraham worshipped two distinct gods.

I guess what someone really hardcore fundamentalist (but theologically and academically informed) would have to say would be that in their opinion Muslim worship is not acceptable to God because it ignores/actively denies the deity of Christ. Something like that. Of course Muslims and Jews say that insisting on the deity of Christ makes Christian worship unaceptable to the most high, and so on and so it goes.

Date: 2003-11-27 05:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Right. But what Bush said, exactly, is that Muslims and Christians worship the same god, and that's what some Evangelical christians are trying to dispute.

Date: 2003-11-27 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-autoclave.livejournal.com
yeah i got that. i was just emphasisng the SOME. y'know?

like not all christians are that nuts.

not even all evangelical christians are that nuts.

i DID read the article *as well as* yr post.

that's why i said "unless Bush was trying to suggest that Muslims worship Jesus" because obviously that isn't what he was suggeting...

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