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So, Gregg Easterbrook, a fancy-pants brie-eatin' chardonnay-sippin' elitist who makes a living as a writer and editor, was the writer of Tuesday Morning Quarterback on ESPN.com's Page 2 until sometime after last week's entry when he was canned by ESPN.com due to an entry in his Easterblogg in which he brutalizes Quentin Tarantino and his latest movie due to the violence and general lack of substance therein (and in all of Tarantino's oeuvre). So far so good... but then he runs off the rails and starts dissing Miramax, run by some guy named Weinstein, which is owned by Disney, run by some guy named Eisner. Then he points out that they're Jewish, then he talks about the worship of money. His editor lays blame about this whole mess on, among other things, "the hubris of this whole blogging enterprise." Easterbrook has apologized with the unimpressive-sounding, "Of mangling words, I am guilty." The Washington Post's Howard Kurtz has a good collection of quotes (and links thereto). Here's a choice of quotes:

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Relying on his limbic system instead of his cerebral cortex, Easterbrook dismisses movie violence as unimaginative, hackneyed, and trite with an argument that is as unimaginative, hackneyed, and trite as you'll ever read.

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Easterbrook's case is not helped by other aspects of his apology. In one, he recounts how he joined a particular Presbyterian congregation specifically because it shares facilities and finances with a synagogue. Experienced readers will find it a bit like the old "some of my best friends are" argument.

Worse, in his apology and in an interview with the New York Times Thursday, Easterbrook pointed to a column he wrote last week, assailing Mel Gibson for a history of violent filmmaking while defending his controversial re-creation of the Passion. "I raised the exact same question about a Christian," Easterbrook said Thursday, and "there was not a single peep."

In that same essay, however, he attacked Catholic biblical scholars who have criticized Gibson's script as anti-Semitic, as well as the Anti-Defamation League, which has expressed similar reservations. "The ADL has a financial interest in accusing Gibson of anti-Semitism," he wrote, "as the organization raises money using this charge ... how better to get publicity and pry open checkbooks."

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In a statement about the firing yesterday, ESPN called Easterbrook's remarks "highly offensive and intolerable."

A rep for the network said that the decision was made in-house, and not on Eisner's instructions.

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Don't forget, kids! Arabs are Semites, too! Fight back against people who use "anti-Semite" in lieu of "anti-Jew".

On a lighter note, Easterbrook's "Disney's CEO, Michael Eisner, is Jewish; the chief of Miramax, Harvey Weinstein, is Jewish" is very evidently a ripoff of Cartman's classic "Spielberg? Jew. Lucas? Jew. Kyle? Jew. Coincidence?"

So what was my point after all this natter? People is dumb. And ESPN should have never canned Easterbrook over this crap, because it obviously didn't affect them — but because Easterbrook named Eisner (and outed him as a Jew! *gasp*), it looks to anyone like good ol' fashioned payback.

Date: 2003-10-21 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-memory.livejournal.com
Don't forget, kids! Arabs are Semites, too! Fight back against people who use "anti-Semite" in lieu of "anti-Jew".

"Fight back against a century of common usage!"

Ahem.

(I'm happy to replace it as soon as anyone suggests a euphonious and obvious candidate.)

Date: 2003-10-21 02:20 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Hey, "common usage" is one of my favorite windmills to tilt at.

And what's wrong with "anti-Jew" or "anti-Judaism", anyway?

Date: 2003-10-21 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-memory.livejournal.com
And what's wrong with "anti-Jew" or "anti-Judaism", anyway?

Intrinsically, nothing. Doesn't scan as easily though, but I'll happily admit that that's an entirely idiosyncratic asthetic judgment.

Date: 2003-10-21 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunburn.livejournal.com
Might be best if it the language gets overhauled anyway, because it'd be nice if people could make stronger distinctions between being against Israel, against Judaism: the religion, and against Jews, who could either be people who practice Judaism, or the ethnic group found in the latter.

Date: 2003-10-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
I think many Jews and Israelis would argue that they're all the same. I don't know if they would be a majority, though.

Of course, all too often we see people who criticize Israel labeled as anti-Semitic, and that's just plain braindead. From what i hear, it's much worse in Germany, too.

Date: 2003-10-22 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunburn.livejournal.com
Sometimes you'll see "Israel" named as the culprit when it's apparent the person criticizing is blaming Jews, and his hence being anti-semitic. I.e. "Israeli state policy requires baking bread with the blood of Arabs," is an anti-semitic libel no matter which portion of the globe's jewish population you're referring to. But yeah, it's not anti-semitic to say "Israel's socialism is stupid." That doesn't mean someone's going to say "Hey, here's referring to the kibbutzim! That's anti-semitic." At which point I say "hoookaaaay" and depart.

Date: 2003-10-21 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ikkyu2.livejournal.com
Hey, "common usage" is one of my favorite windmills to tilt at.

It was no less an essayist than Montaigne who essayed, "Those who would combat usage with grammar make fools of themselves." This after a couple of paragraphs of same, though, which was entertaining.

Date: 2003-10-21 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldsleep.livejournal.com
TMQ was the only thing that made Tuesday bearable. At least, while at work, cruising the web.

The article in question, though, could have, at the least, been more thought out. Or something.

Date: 2003-10-21 02:43 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
TMQ was great when he talked football, not so great when he talked about anything else, especially his "Man Show"-esque tendency to ogle titties.

Date: 2003-10-21 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldsleep.livejournal.com
I enjoyed the science/quasi-science stuff (including the Star Trek/Enterprise rambles), and really took the cheerleader stuff with a grain of salt. Or laughed at the general testosterone-ness of it all.

Date: 2003-10-21 03:53 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Bleh. You liked "The Man Show", didn't you.

I guess all i wanted to see out of him was football. If i want science/quasi-science stuff, i'll go read Bad Astronomy or something. It's easy to find sites like that; it's hard to find someone who actually knows what he's talking about in football, or at least looks at things from a different perspective.

Date: 2003-10-21 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldsleep.livejournal.com
Bleh. You liked "The Man Show", didn't you.

Never saw it. From the few commercials for it, it didn't look remotely interesting or funny.

Agreed, it's easy to find Bad Astronomy/Physics/whatever, but I enjoyed the general ramble-ness of it all (call it a personal weakness), and liked mentioning to people random weirdness that I read about in "a football column."

But yes, I also really liked his football vies.

Date: 2003-10-21 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
I can't bring myself to like the Man Show, ever since they dressed up the eye candy in Native American outfits. Nurses, fine, cheerleaders, fine. Dissing an entire culture just for sexual jollies? Not fine.

Date: 2003-10-21 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therobbergirl.livejournal.com
Don't forget, kids! Arabs are Semites, too! Fight back against people who use "anti-Semite" in lieu of "anti-Jew".

The reason to use "anti-semitism" instead of "anti-Jewish" is because "anti-semitism" refers specifically to Jews. The argument that Arabs are Semites, too, is an argument that some Arabs have used to justify their anti-semitism.

When you come over tonight, take a look at my copy of Rabbi Telushkin's Jewish Literacy for a more indepth explanation of the issue and why this argument is inadvertently offensive.

Date: 2003-10-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Forgive me if i don't consider a rabbi an unbiased source in this matter.

If Arabs are Semites, then to call a systematic or general hatred of Judaism "anti-Semitism" is, at best, inaccurate. If Arabs are actually NOT Semites, then i withdraw the above comment. Anything else is semantic noodling.

Date: 2003-10-21 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therobbergirl.livejournal.com
Forgive me if i don't consider a rabbi an unbiased source in this matter.

Why does bias matter? Just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean that their research and work is flawed. Telushkin is a highly respected source, both inside and outside of Jewish circles.

If Arabs are Semites, then to call a systematic or general hatred of Judaism "anti-Semitism" is, at best, inaccurate.

Take a look at the definition and history of the word rather than parsing it. "Anti-semitism" has always referred to Jews and only recently have some Arabs tried to use its English parts to justify their views. I'll post the relevant section later this evening when I have the book handy.

Date: 2003-10-21 05:05 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Well, i don't know Telushkin from Adam, you know?

If "anti-semitism" (i wonder if the lower-case 's' is significant) was meant to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment from the very start, then it was a poorly chosen term, and i wonder if it was chosen in order to further distance Jews from Arabs.

Date: 2003-10-21 05:23 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Google, as always, rules (http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/antisemitism.html#nsomeo).
The term "anti­Semite" was coined in Germany in 1879 by Wilhelm Marrih to refer to the anti­Jewish manifestations of the period and to give Jew ­hatred a more scientific sounding name. "Anti­Semitism" has been accepted and understood to mean hatred of the Jewish people.
"More scientific sounding" my ass.

So, fine, 'anti-Semitism' and 'anti-Semite' are valid terms due to over 125 years of usage. They're still inaccurate and confusing terms, and that's why we should call a spade a spade, just so you don't have asshole Arabs and Bobby Fischer and me getting all funny and cute with language.

Common usage... BAH. This is why the common person shouldn't be allowed to use language. If grunts and gestures were good enough 10000 years ago, they're good enough now.

Date: 2003-10-21 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
HULK THINK YOU ANTI-HULK!

Date: 2003-10-21 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoneself.livejournal.com
blame the nazis (this thread is now dead btw).

they also mangled the use of the use of aryan. thousands of years ago some aryans wound up in europe and others wound up on the indian subcontinent. i doubt that hilter had the indian aryans in mind when he was using the term.

Date: 2003-10-22 07:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] damienw
Um, I was lead to believe that Marrih introduced anti-Semite as a replacement for Judenhasse because he thought that calling it "Jew-hating" was putting people off their proper duty of discriminating against Jews...

Also, I thought the Arabs were "Hamitic", sons of Ham. There's some joke here, if only I could work it out.

Date: 2003-10-22 09:03 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
That was the impression that i got by reading stuff yesterday, but it didn't seem crystal-clear. It would be very ironic, in my opinion, if Jews were trying to insist on a term that was originally intended as a euphemism by someone who was bigoted against them.

The Hamites were the Canaanites, as i understand it. Arabs and Jews came from Abraham, who came from Shem.

Date: 2003-10-22 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunburn.livejournal.com
That was the impression that i got by reading stuff yesterday, but it didn't seem crystal-clear. It would be very ironic, in my opinion, if Jews were trying to insist on a term that was originally intended as a euphemism by someone who was bigoted against them.

The term "Queer" has sometimes been embraced in this way by gay people or the gay community, though I haven't seen much of the term in years. Why by queer when you can be gay?

Date: 2003-10-22 03:26 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
I guess you folks up in Seattle don't get "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy". Then again, that's probably a blessing.

"You kissed a girl! That is so gay!"

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