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... please consider this summary, which shows that you have little to worry about unless you make over $600k a year.  And if you do, you probably have little to worry about anyway, you rich fuck.

Date: 2008-09-18 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
The only people who dislike Obama's tax plans are either willfully ignorant or wealthily so.

Date: 2008-09-19 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
Well, there actually are people (Sebastian Holsclaw, who is maybe my favorite conservative blogger though I rarely agree with him, springs to mind) who have a sort of economic-libertarian moral argument against distributing tax money from the rich to the poor, even though they're not really rich enough to be harmed that much. The argument is that it's illegitimate to let people vote to take money from somebody else (the phrase "by force" usually shows up somewhere in here) for their own benefit. It's not fair to use the power of the state to just take money for yourself that somebody else earned.

It actually sounds kind of convincing if you don't then start thinking about all the other kinds of power and force there are in the world. In a market system, self-interest applied to your economic decisions is supposed to be a good thing that runs the engine. If it's been bleeding poorer people dry for the benefit of richer people, well, that's just the legitimate working of the system; if the rising tide hasn't lifted your boat you're just not trying hard enough. The force ultimately used to enforce property rights and contracts is legitimate force. But give those poor people the democratic power to promote their monetary self-interest, and suddenly that's an illegitimate use of force and they ought to be more altruistic!

Date: 2008-09-19 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
See, it doesn't actually sound convincing to me, so I can skip right ahead to the other stuff. :-)

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