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"There is no express grant of habeas [corpus] in the Constitution; there is a prohibition against taking it away."

As [livejournal.com profile] theweaselking noted, "Using the same logic, of course, there's no right to bear arms, either - just because the constitution says you can't take it away doesn't mean it says you've got it."  Remember the good old days, when there was a Supreme Court vacancy or two and Gonzales's name kept popping up as a candidate?  Why, this fascinating exercise in hairsplitting is just what this country needs!

Date: 2007-01-24 04:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mangosteen
Mostly, I'm trying to figure out what country Gonzo grew up in.
Treating civil rights as an intellectual game is..... bothersome.

Date: 2007-01-24 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
When he said that I couldn't help picturing him dressed as the portrait on a playing card, and explaining this to a dormouse and a Mock Turtle.

Date: 2007-01-24 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordweaverlynn.livejournal.com
Grrrrrrrrrr.

Date: 2007-01-24 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratontheroad.livejournal.com
I think there's a problem with your first tag... you seem to have misspelled "lawyers"

Date: 2007-01-24 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallifreyan.livejournal.com
Well, there's no freedom of speech or the press anymore either, unless graciously granted by the executive branch. So that makes sense.

Did you hear that Microsoft Windows is the most secure OS on the planet too?

Date: 2007-01-24 05:00 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (horse! pie!)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Of course! That's why everyone uses it!

Date: 2007-01-24 05:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-01-24 08:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kodi
There's something very eerie about the way Gonzales and Bush both have the same smirk when someone accuses them of being a fucking liar.

Date: 2007-01-24 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com
Someone needs to sit Gonzales down and remind him about that bit where the govt. has no powers not expressly granted, and that the Bill of Rights exists entirely because some of the founders of this nation knew assholes like him would be unable to understand this. Unfortunately, Murphy's Law stands, and a better idiot can always be found.

Date: 2007-01-24 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampyrecat.livejournal.com
Someone is bound to point out that Bill Clinton also used word games when he said "It depends on what the definition of is is." I want to point out that there is a BIG difference between playing word games to justify/hide a blow job and playing word games to justify/hide torture and secret prisons.

Minor Nit....

Date: 2007-01-24 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drieuxster.livejournal.com

In case no one has offered you the official gnostic lexicon, Torture is what NeoConClowns mean when they are talking about a 'blow job'....

It use to mean, an 'enron financialization' but that was upgraded in the post-911 cultural enhancement phase...

HTH.

Date: 2007-01-24 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bebopmonkey.livejournal.com
i wonder where that fool got his law degree?

Date: 2007-01-25 05:43 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (cornholio)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Harvard, according to Wikipedia.

This IS your Brain On Drugs....

Date: 2007-01-24 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drieuxster.livejournal.com

Actually Gonzales would be more corrector if he asserted that this was a position that might have been considered truthier prior to 09/11/2001 when the whole world changed.... but if you will go over the various litigations about the criminal searches without warrents that are going forward, you would be obliged to note that a 'right of habbeas corpus' has been dead in america for a few years now...

All that is required now is whether or not the president has resovled that you could at some point be considered a potential terrorist, and/or if the person detaining you has a reasonable, or unreasonable belief, that an order, lawful, or otherwise, might at some time be issued which would provide some form of legal cover, whether it would be lawful or not.

HTH.

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