how nerdy are dedicated fans?

[rone]

tongodeon created a poll that asks which TV/movie franchise is the nerdiest, using the "caliber of nerd associated with its dedicated fan base" as the metric.  I am not convinced that this is a helpful exercise.  First off, followers of a particular fandom will attempt to play down their own nerdiness in order to somehow legitimize what they're doing (look at the low Buffy score as proof).  Also, it is difficult to separate the nerds one knows that love a particular creation from one's own opinion of the creation, but more crucially, from one's opinion of such nerds.  For example, i react with intense aversion to the Rocky Horror Picture Show because, holy fuck, that is one goddamned stupid movie, and the subculture that arose around its festering dungheap is inexplicable, massively annoying, and ugly.  I think the Brunching Shuttlecocks' geek hierarchy is missing the RHPS fans below the erotic fanfic furries.  But i digress...

What makes a fandom nerdier than the other?  Well, what's nerdy behavior?  Obsessing about details in the canon, buying merchandise, attending conventions (in costume, for bonus nerd points), writing fan fiction... am i missing anything?  Is a fandom that lacks action figures, for example, less nerdy than one that has them?  (Can i stop asking questions in this paragraph and write an actual statement?)

ikkyu2 speaks truth in the comments: separate the fandom from the nerd and how much nerd do you have left?  It's a very open question.  And his point about needing to be quite a nerd to even attempt to gauge the question hits the nail right on the head.  OW LORD HELP ME THERE'S A BEAM IN MY EYE.

I can't even keep it simple by making something that's more mainstream less nerdy; the Simpsons and Harry Potter are two of the most mainstream items in the poll, but HP is, by almost any measure, much nerdier than the Simpsons.  What's nerdier, being a Vlad Taltos fan or a Wheel of Time fan?  OK, yeah, the Wheel of Time, duh.

Anyway, i revisited my "all 9s and a 10 for RHPS" vote and gave the Simpsons an 8.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Comments

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

There is this unusual person on rec.arts.sf.written who goes on and on about how the ritualistic Rocky Horror Picture Show fandom has obscured us to the genius and profundity of the movie itself as a work of serious science fiction exploring important social and sexual themes. She also insists that the person credited as its author is a fraud and it was actually written by somebody else.

It's kind of a head-scratcher.

[glaucon.livejournal.com]

my ex-girlfriend said that it was one of the most heart-rending things she had ever seen and that she cried her eyes out.

the fact that she watched it alone on video while clinically insane may have been a contributing factor.

I do think that it's many good qualities as a musical and a film have been obscured by its annoying fans, but then, the same could be said of the Grateful Dead, the Roman Catholic Church, Burning Man, and...oh...I dunno...ferrets.

except as a band, a religion/social club, a social club/religion, and an animal rather than a musical or a film.

[omarius.livejournal.com]

"I do think that [The Rocky Horror Picture Show's]  many good qualities as a musical
and a film have been obscured by its annoying fans, but then, the same could be said
of the Grateful Dead, the Roman Catholic Church, Burning Man, and...oh...I dunno...
ferrets."
--C. M. Adams (glaucon @ livejournal)

just went in my quotes file.

It was only shown at midnight for a reason

[mouseworks.livejournal.com]

If you weren't tired, you might think about it.