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Q: Some people hold Microsoft most accountable for security problems, even though software flaws are exploited by "bad guys," as you said. Is that a fair criticism?

Gates: Software in general, whether it was from Microsoft or somebody else, was not set up for an environment where all the computers were connected together. So it's not like there was some software that had this security capability and our software did not. As we use the Internet to connect everyone up, then the need to essentially have suspicion and only listen to certain other systems, and if flaws come up to have those updated very quickly, that became a new requirement.
It's about halfway down in this Seattle Post-Intelligencer interview.

Date: 2005-09-15 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitter-ninja.livejournal.com
My head hurts from reading that.

Perhaps I should remind The Gatester that Microsoft is the OS on my Commodore 128, where Q-Link software was used to CONNECT COMPUTERS TOGETHER back in the 80s. Of course, they didn't have any security to speak of back then, either.

Date: 2005-09-15 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drieuxster.livejournal.com
Now be realistic, who would have ever thought that when the Internet was a DARPA project that this meant that it would be built in the Public Domain for the citizens of america.

I mean clearly that was just something that no one could have actually expected, now could they have really expected that computers would be used to do computing stuff in the Public Domain for citizens of america!

I mean who could ever have predicted that things that are done in the Public Domain for the citizens of America would actually, well, be kept in the public domain, and in the public interest, I mean when did Fox News tell americans that there was a reason to be aware of the internet.

Date: 2005-09-16 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com
...when they won Sweeps Week for exposing the evil hackers who want to steal your babies credit cards and sell photos of them to your adolescent teenage daughters on the internet chat web.

Date: 2005-09-16 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptomblin-lj.livejournal.com
Ok, never mind the fact that he's full of shit and your average Unix computer was designed for and was networked twenty years ago. And we learned all we needed to know about trust from the morris worm. It's been what, 10 years or so since Bill Gates looked down from his irovy tower, saw all of us people using the Internet, and declared it was the next big thing? How many times has Windows supposedly re-written since then? And they still haven't given it a decent security model.

Date: 2005-09-16 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweh.livejournal.com
In the mid 90s Bill Gates looked at the internet and said "Bah! No one wants that. I'll make my own version based on my own protocols with dynamic content and cool stuff and I'll call it MicroSoft Network (MSN) and I'll kill off the internet". I was at the UK launch party of it, 'cos we did work with a company called Alphablox, who were one of the first companies to use MSN. I found it funny tha the live demonstrations didn't seem to show the modem icon lights flickering at all; pre-cached content... it was never that fast in our office!

Time passes...

MSN mutates into just another TCP based service. Bill Gates claims he supported the Internet all along.

Date: 2005-09-16 06:20 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (southpark)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Now you've reminded me of that absolutely awful "CYBERPORN" issue of Time. Not to mention that Marty Rimm shithead. Argghh.

Date: 2005-09-16 08:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Gates is talking out of his bottom, but reading even just the subject lines of BUGTRAQ makes me think that the UNIX world has learned far from enough from the Morris worm.

Date: 2005-09-16 05:31 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (grumpy)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Definitely, but i don't think anyone on Our Side is in denial about it.

Date: 2005-09-16 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aomouse.livejournal.com
I so want you to friend me on the basis of that subject line alone. I have read your bio and we seem to have been born under the same sign.

Date: 2005-09-16 07:05 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (bowler)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Heh, i cannot take credit for the subject line; that's [livejournal.com profile] warren_ellis's line.

Date: 2005-09-17 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crankysysadmin.livejournal.com
But, of course, if we start to have problems with our Windows when using it on the public Internet, for which it was never designed (how COULD it be?), he can only shake his head and point wistfully to the MSN logo above his head. If only we had followed the light...

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