one more thing

[rone]

A big "fuck you" to everyone who voted for Proposition 69, which passed with 61.8% YES votes.

Comments

[kerri9494.livejournal.com]

If that doesn't wind up in the Supreme Court, nothing will.

[anavolena.livejournal.com]

i'm really surprised that one passed, and the one to make the three strikes law a little more reasonable failed.

i really need to deal with the fact that my mental political map is so radically different from what the election results are telling me. i keep waiting for sanity and reason to break out.

[bebopmonkey.livejournal.com]

that passed? JESUS, can people even read anymore?

[some_other_dave]

That's gonna be a helluva long wait...

I love that the stem cell research bond initiative passed. Someone's gonna get 100% ROI; they're borrowing $1.5B and paying back $3B. I wonder which of the Governator's friends (or campaign contributors) is gonna get those?

I'm getting tired of asking, "Why are people so damn stupid??"

[vspope.livejournal.com]

But will that matter?

[matrushkaka.livejournal.com]

I wonder how many of the voters actually understood the propositions.

I'm more pissed about Prop 66.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

The three strikes amendment would've made a bigger mess than the current law. It was a loss no matter which way you voted on it.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

Eh, 66 would've been a huge fuckup. I'm actually a little relieved it failed.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

Because if they voted for 71, they could make Christopher Reeve walk again!

No, wait.

[omarius.livejournal.com]

Jesus. People's Republic of Kalifornia, indeed.

[pootrootbeer.livejournal.com]

Depends on whether Bush gets Neoconservative judges appointed, or has to settle for good old-fashioned Conservatives.

[pennyhill.livejournal.com]

This STUPID vote reflects the New Morality that seems to have mindwiped most of the country . . . and it has infected California as well. I really don't think this is the height of it. They want to punish everyone they think is even a little naughty. There will be more fines against radio stations and tv broadcasts, more repression of expression, more puritan fervor, and god or someone help us, more evangelical advocacy and push toward armageddon.

I've linked to this map (http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/pres/mapAN.htm) on my lj page, and I'll share it with the ronbofh readers. This is how the state voted for president by county.

I R IDJIT, apparently

[vardissakheli.livejournal.com]

I've read it through three times now and I don't see what's so execrable about it. They'll take DNA samples of the same people they take fingerprints of now. Where's the privacy issue?

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

Do people get fingerprinted when they're arrested? That would be a new one to me.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

Even if you're right, that's pretty bad and something that shouldn't happen. So why make it worse?

Re: I R IDJIT, apparently

[kerri9494.livejournal.com]

Because a DNA sample is INVASIVE, while fingerprints are not. You can tell a lot about a person based on a DNA sample...for example, if they have a particular kind of disease, or a likelihood for contracting it in the future. Or things about ethnic heritage. Or any number of other things.

ALL fingerprints can do is offer a unique visual signature of a person's identity. DNA gives you some of the most profound information about a person that exists.

Also, it extends to ALL 'felons'. Do we need a DNA sample from Ken Lay? What a waste of time, money, and resources THAT is. Never mind invasive.

[glitter-ninja.livejournal.com]

Wow. Shit, rone, I am so sorry. We didn't have any huge issues like that here in Kansas; we don't get a chance to vote on important things. A few well-paid trained chimps on the school board or in the government make decisions and the rest of us get to be embarassed about them.

[nyar.livejournal.com]

Monday night I felt so certain this prop would fail miserably. I suppose its victory less surprising than that 5% of IL Democrats voted for Keyes!

[therobbergirl.livejournal.com]

*blush* Er, uh, yes. And I take the 5th.

[eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com]

That's an interesting one. They already have something like this in the UK, although I don't recall it going through Parliament or any election: it simply became police policy to take samples from any person who is arrested on suspicion of any criminal offence (i.e. feolny or misdemeanour in US-speak), and to retain those samples in perpetuity. The sample is retained even if the person is subsequently acquitted, or released without being formally charged. There was a recent legal challenge to this, which reached the House of Lords, and failed. At this point, the only recourse is the European Court of Human rights, and that could go either way...

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

That's one thing i don't get. Who are all these Democrats who voted for Bush? Was i just imagining things, or did it always seem to be that a larger percentage of Democrats voted for Bush than Republicans for Kerry? Where were all the outraged "real" conservatives? Who are these Democrat scumbags who wanted four more years of getting punched in the face?

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

I have utter faith that you were framed.

[nyar.livejournal.com]

Eh, if it makes you feel any better, 40% of GOPers voted for Obama .

There are two things at play though, in the "Democrats for Bush" area. The first is DINOs, like Zell Miller, from the South. The second is that as far back as I can remember Democrats have always been more willing to break party ranks in than the Republicans. This seems to be true on both the individual voter level and also in legislators. But in the latter case it might be because the GOP leadership inflicts harsh discipline on those members who stray too much from the party line...

[therobbergirl.livejournal.com]

No, I definitely did do it. But nothing came of it aside from the scare of arrest and related procedures.

[dumplechan.livejournal.com]

the GOP leadership inflicts harsh discipline on those members who stray too much from the party line...

Yes, but we're encouraged not to tell Outsiders about the schock tags that BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!!!!! GAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!

arrested, or charged?

[lara7.livejournal.com]

does fingerprinting happen when arrested, or when charged and booked? because, uh, a friend of mine, was arrested once and then released before being booked, charged or mug shotted and was not fingerprinted. but maybe it differs by state?

I was fingerprinted to work for the city and county of San Francisco, for what it's worth. I had to go to the SOMA jail to do it.

Re: arrested, or charged?

[therobbergirl.livejournal.com]

I was only arrested. No handcuffs, no car. It happened on the Berkeley campus in the late 1980s and I was walked to the basement of Sproul Hall. They took my prints (no picture that I can recall), interviewed me awhile, then told me they didn't want me after all. I'm so fucking sweet.