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entombed in the shrine of zeroes and ones ([personal profile] rone) wrote2009-12-28 09:46 am
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[identity profile] solipsistnation.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
"Grey" is more sophisticated than "gray."

[identity profile] sweh.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, "grey" is a colour rather than a mere gray color :-)

[identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Precisely. For example, horses, Mercedeses, and Poupons can be grey, but Corollas and Dells can only be gray. Likewise, working class hair can gray, but upper-class hair may grey instead.

Spalding was Gray.

[identity profile] notr.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Joel could only ever be Grey.

[identity profile] sweh.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"Gray" is either the SI unit (Gy) for measuring absorbed radiation, or the American misspelling of "grey" :-)

[identity profile] rbarclay.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
But, but, doesn't Gy mean Giga-year?
(scnr)

[identity profile] sweh.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Gigayear? How backwards of you. Petaseconds, please!

Concur

[identity profile] mopti.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"Gray" is a misspelling :)
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[identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)

[in 1893] “Many correspondents said that they used the two forms with a difference of meaning or application: the distinction most generally recognized being that grey denotes a more delicate or a lighter tint than gray. Others considered the difference to be that gray is a ‘warmer’ colour, or that it has a mixture of red or brown”

I suspect those correspondents would be optimistic if they expected to be reliably understood in the ways they describe...

ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (cigar)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, nice. Where'd you find that?
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[identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It’s part of a discussion appended to the etymology section in the word’s entry in the OED. It concludes: “As the word is both etymologically and phonetically one, it is undesirable to treat its graphic forms as differing in signification.”

I have to agree

[identity profile] notr.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
with both parts: I tend to write grey for light and cool and gray for dark and warm, but they're two spellings of the same word denoting exactly the same range of colors.

[identity profile] devonapple.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I see "grey" used most often in the usernames of wiccan-compliant types to imply the wisdom associated with experience, which is usually attributed to having earned gray/grey hair.

[identity profile] palecur.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
GraeyWraeyvn876 posted "LOL GOKU ROXXX"

[identity profile] epileptikitty.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ah! "Eminence Gris"!

[identity profile] pootrootbeer.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I tend towards the "gray" spelling now because of certain early web browsers that implemented HTML's 16 named colors by stemming from the first three letters of each value; thus "grey" would be misinterpreted as "green".

[identity profile] sambushell.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think american citizens are allowed to use the word "grey". Aid and comfort to the OED, or something.

[identity profile] solipsistnation.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That'll make having named my baby "Grey' somewhat complicated, then.

[identity profile] sambushell.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! He'll be deported over and over again, from and to the same destination!

[identity profile] ptomblin-lj.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I worked on a project that dealt with colour a lot. It had been written by Australians, worked on for several years by Americans, and then they hired me (a Canadian) to work on it. The correct spelling of that colour (or indeed, the word "colour") was a constant source of debugging fun.

[identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody ever gets abducted by the Grays.
Only by the Greys.

Which, given current US Immigration policy, probably explains our spelling preference! Fnarr Fnarr.

[identity profile] oh6.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
So that's why they never come.

[identity profile] sunburn.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I do feel there's a qualitative difference between crawfish and crayfish, though.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Crayfish swim in Fluorinert.

[identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
And play electric blues.

But I can explain how.

[identity profile] schwa242.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Grey is bluer and greener. Gray is redder. You're welcome.

Re: But I can explain how.

[identity profile] epileptikitty.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Payne's Gray is bluer, while his Grey is redder.

[identity profile] pennyhill.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
There are far more compound words with gray, from graybeard to grayfish (as opposed to crayfish), to gray wolf. I'm sure that means something. Both gray and grey seem to come from Old English. Does the OED differentiate them further back - from different languages? Now I'm curious.

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'll see yer grayfish and raise you a great grey shrike (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greatgreyshrike/index.aspx) (there's a lesser grey shrike too, but the RSPB doesn't have an entry for it), a grey heron (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greyheron/index.aspx), a grey partridge (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greypartridge/index.aspx), a grey phalarope (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greyphalarope/index.aspx), a grey plover (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greyplover/index.aspx) and a grey wagtail (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greywagtail/index.aspx). Then I'll annoy you even more by mentioning the greylag goose (http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/greylaggoose/index.aspx). :P

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Obnoxiousness aside, i would use "greybeard" rather than "graybeard". Not sure if that's a personal choice or a reflection of the greater use of "grey" over here, and the greater use of "gray" over there...

[identity profile] pennyhill.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
No. *I* am over here. YOU are over THERE. And you silly people can't spell anything, so I'm not taking your spelling preference seriously.

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Feh, uppity Colonials.

[identity profile] epileptikitty.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Is there a subliminal pronunciation difference, like 'caught' v.s. 'cot'?

Phonological history of English low back vowels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_low_back_vowels).

[identity profile] ikkyu2.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
'Gray' is a neutral color. 'Grey' to me has associations with yellowness and greasiness, very negative associations. It's also associated with bergamot for obvious reasons.

I understand that they are actually supposed to be synonyms, but this is happening on some other level.

[identity profile] tau-iota-mu-c.livejournal.com 2010-01-05 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you hate damp dreary English towns?

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Someone who used "gray" killed my parents, you insensitive clod!

[identity profile] tau-iota-mu-c.livejournal.com 2010-01-05 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
"gray" is American and so is covered in boold.