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entombed in the shrine of zeroes and ones ([personal profile] rone) wrote2003-10-22 03:02 pm
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origin of memes

Google claims that this is the first occurrence of "YOU HAVE GREATLY MISUNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF [X]".

[identity profile] solipsistnation.livejournal.com 2003-10-22 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)

I think it was, actually, at least as far as I remember.

Ah, the golden days of a.f.w.... Some of mine are still in the archives, too.

[identity profile] littleamerica.livejournal.com 2003-10-22 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"New-aged-out?"

[identity profile] omarius.livejournal.com 2003-10-22 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow... We used to use (a permutation of (http://www.bbchatter.org/archive/files/reply.form.html)) that form on bb.chatter on the VAX at JMU. We called it the "Standard Reply Form," or SRF.

It *has* to be older than that, because I'm sure it was used @JMU longer than 1992, as 1) We used a permutation of the form, and 2) I don't know anyone who read a.f.w. I bet [livejournal.com profile] dwenius/plord could speak to this.

[identity profile] ikkyu2.livejournal.com 2003-10-22 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's actually pretty kind when the subject in question is Mike Jittlov.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (excitable)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-10-22 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I charge you with a Holy Quest: find the source of that form. Don't disappoint me.

I notice

[identity profile] vardissakheli.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
you had an important feature that FORM #4 lacks: spelling criticism.

[identity profile] omarius.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll see what I can do. I queried some JMUVAX oldbies, and they suggest that the form's been used there since 1990 or so. High probability of crossover from Usenet. High probability of plord-culpability.

[identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I never read alt.fan.warlord. I do, however, have a 1994 copy from alt.config which begins as follows:


STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM
(original by David Parsons)
(who stole it from George McQuary)
(who shamelessly appropriated the idea from Dave Sweeney)


I'll go ask David Parsons if he remembers more...
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems that it would be more helpful if we asked Dave Sweeney...

[identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems that it would be more helpful if we asked Dave Sweeney...

Don't know him. Be my guest. :)

[identity profile] omarius.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Good idea. Paul was a dead end-- he imported it to JMU from talk.bizarre. He found one on t.b from '92 here (http://groups.google.com/groups?q=skinner+box+clueless+talk+bizarre+greatly+misunderstood&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=6943%40ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil&rnum=10).


STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM

(Anonymous) 2003-10-23 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The copy of the standardized reply form I have is from rpwhite; it
was posted to talk.bizarre on the 11th of November, 1992.

Here's the copy I have:
| From vpnet!tellab5!laidbak!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!taurus!ac13!rpwhite Sat Nov 14 10:20:53 CST 1992
| Article: 56121 of talk.bizarre
| Xref: vpnet news.admin.misc:370 talk.bizarre:56121
| Path: vpnet!tellab5!laidbak!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!taurus!ac13!rpwhite
| From: rpwhite@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
| Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,talk.bizarre
| Subject: Re: Clearly NOT a FORGERY
| Message-ID: <6943@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil>
| Date: 11 Nov 92 00:05:06 GMT
| References: <1992Nov8.192206.27224@wetware.com> <1992Nov10.174712.27216@wolves.uucp>
| Followup-To: talk.bizarre,misc.test
| Organization: Monterey Bay Yacht Club, Monterey CA
| Lines: 82
| Status: RO
|
| news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den) writes:
| >drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
|
|
| >Casting aspersions on NCSU because you are technically out-of-date is
| >hardly conducive to you (already lacking) net.reputation.
| --
| >Usenet Net News Administrator @ The Wolves Den (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
| >news@wolves.durham.nc.us news%wolves@cs.duke.edu ...duke!wolves!news
| >"The flame war is a specific Usenet art form." --me
| >[This site is not affiliated with Duke University. (Idiots!) ]
|
|
| USENET NEWS STANDARD FOLLOW-UP FORM
|
|
| I TOOK EXCEPTION TO YOUR RECENT POST TO ___ news.admin.misc ___.
| (newsgroup)
|
| IT WAS:
|
| XXX LAME.
| ___ STUPID.
| XXX MUCH LONGER THAN ANY WORTHWHILE THOUGHT OF WHICH YOU MAY BE CAPABLE.
|
| YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT:
|
| ___ WHAT YOU POSTED HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
| (Mark only if above checked)
| ___ IT WAS DONE BETTER THE LAST TIME.
| ___ YOUR POST WAS A PATHETIC IMITATION OF ______________________.
| (net.personality)
| ___ YOUR POST CONTAINED SPELLING ERRORS.
| XXX YOUR POST CONTAINED GRAMMAR ERRORS.
| ___ YOUR POST WAS AN OBVIOUS FORGERY.
| (Mark only if above checked)
| ___ IT WAS DONE CLUMSILY.
| XXX YOU HAVE A LAME LOGIN NAME.
| XXX YOUR MACHINE HAS A STUPID NAME.
| ___ YOU REPOSTED AN ENTIRE ARTICLE ONLY TO ADD ___ NEW LINES OF TEXT.
| XXX YOU FLAMED SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN AROUND FAR LONGER THAN YOU.
| XXX YOU FLAMED SOMEONE WHO IS FAR MORE INTELLIGENT AND WITTIER THAN YOU.
| ___ YOUR LINES ARE 80 COLUMNS LONG OR LONGER. PLEASE ADJUST.
| ___ YOU FAILED TO CHECK THE FOLLOWUPS-TO: LINE.
|
|
| XXX THE .SIG YOU APPENDED IS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE (check all that apply):
| ___ YOU HAVE ___ SNAIL MAIL ADDRESSES WHICH NO ONE USES ANYMORE.
| ___ YOU HAVE ___ PHONE NUMBERS FOR PEOPLE TO USE IN PRANK CALLS.
| XXX YOU HAVE LISTED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES, WHICH NORMALLY CAN BE FOUND IN
| THE HEADER AND SO IS REDUNDANT.
| XXX YOU HAVE LISTED MULTIPLE EMAIL ADDRESSES. ARE YOU REALLY EXPECTING
| PEOPLE TO SEND EMAIL TO YOU IN TRIPLICATE?
| XXX YOU INCLUDED A STUPID DISCLAIMER.
| (Mark only if above also)
| XXX YOUR PATHETIC ATTEMPT AT BEING WITTY IN THE DISCLAIMER FAILED.
| XXX YOU INCLUDED
| (Mark all that apply)
| XXX A STUPID SELF-QUOTE.
| ___ A STUPID QUOTE FROM A NET.NOBODY.
| ___ A RUSH QUOTE.
| ___ A LAME ASCII GRAPHIC OF (Choose all that apply):
| ___ USS ENTERPRISE
| ___ AUSTRALIA
| ___ COMPANY LOGO
| ___ BICYCLE
|
| FURTHERMORE:
|
| ___ YOU HAVE GREATLY MISUNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF _________________________
| (newsgroup)
| ___ YOU HAVE GREATLY MISUNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF THE NET.
| ___ YOU MUST HAVE SPENT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE IN A SKINNER BOX TO BE THIS
| CLUELESS.
| ___ THIS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT TO YOU BEFORE.
| XXX IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT:
| (check all that apply)
| XXX YOU FIND A VOLCANO AND THROW YOURSELF IN.
| ___ YOU GET A GUN AND SHOOT YOURSELF.
| ___ GET A LIFE.
|
| COMMENTS:




-Orc
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (evil)

Re: STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-10-23 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha. Now i have an extra excuse to contact him!

To the rest of you wondering about rpwhite, he's doing fine. He's still happily married and is now taking care of his wife's teenaged niece and nephew in Pacific Grove.