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entombed in the shrine of zeroes and ones ([personal profile] rone) wrote2006-07-09 02:21 pm
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your final recap

Germany 3 - Portugal 1: Excellent game.  Up and down activity throughout the game, both Schweinsteiger goals (first one was a well-hit knuckler with Ricardo screened, second one was an unstoppable curler from outside) and the Gomes goal (centered right at his head by Figo) were excellent (and the Petit own goal came off a good Schweinsteiger free kick).

Italy 1 - France 1 (5-3 PKs): The France goal was a penalty kick awarded on what looked like a very good dive; Zidane hit the crossbar but the ball bounced well behind the touch line before coming back out.  The Italian goal came soon after that from a corner kick (France seemed to have trouble with Italy's corner kicks all game).  Throughout the game, one team seemed to spend some time dominating, then falling back and letting the other team take the upper hand.  The Italians had a goal (correctly) called off for offsides.  Near the end, the French really seemed to have worn the Italians down, but then, soon after taking a marvelous header that Buffon barely poked out, Zidane (who dislocated his shoulder late in the game) lost his patience with Materazzi and headbutted him in the chest, which got him ejected.  Kim thought maybe Materazzi tweaked his shoulder, but the replays don't really seem to show that; all that's clear is that Materazzi hugs him and grabs his jersey a bit.  They exchange words as Zidane walks away, he turns around, bam.  In PKs, Trezeguet's shot was almost a mirror of Zidane's penalty kick, except this time the ball hit the front side of the touch line, and that was the difference.

It's a shame to see Zidane go out like this, and it's a shame to have the Cup end this way, both because of the ugliness and the PKs.  The Iron Man award goes to Philipp Lahm, Fabio Cannavaro, and Gianluigi Buffon for playing 690 minutes of soccer in this Cup.  Buffon only allowed an own-goal and a penalty kick.

Let's do it again in four years.

[identity profile] 2wanda.livejournal.com 2006-07-09 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
In four years, we are going to be in the stands in South Africa, baby!

[identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com 2006-07-09 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
four?

wait what was 2 years ago then? when I was in England and the Greeks won?

[identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
Still confused.

Conversations here have centered around the Greek removal from Fifa due to corruption, and various items, all dealing with the games 2 years ago. Not to mention you're the ONLY person I know referring to this as a 4 year gap, not a 2 year gap.

Now, mind you, the portion where the 'world' actually plays, yes; but somehow I was getting the impression with all the FIFA activity and reorgs that the 'world' bit was changing to 2.

It should, really. If Europe can deal every 2, everyone else can too.

I guess it's just an outside Europe thing, talking about it as 4. Since you're one of one people I know who actually discusses this outside Europe... I should be less surprized.

[identity profile] yong-mi.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
FIFA has a number of tournaments (http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/index.html) with "World Cup" in their names. Some of these (http://www.fifa.com/en/organisation/calendar/index.html) happen every 2 years. But the big one, the World Cup that is referred to as such without other qualifiers, the one that just concluded in Germany is held every 4 years. The next one will be in South Africa in 2010.

p.s.

[identity profile] yong-mi.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It may appear to be a 2-year gap in Europe, since the UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) European Football Championship (referred to as Euro) happens every 4 years, in the even-numbered years between World Cup tournaments.
There are other regional tournaments, such as the Asian Cup, run by the Asian Football Confederation, also happening every 4 years. Nevertheless this would never be confused with the World Cup. Such events are scheduled to not conflict with the World Cup, and increasingly with other major regional events. The AFC has decided to change its calendar, moving the Asian Cup to 2007, instead of its original schedule of 2004, 2008, 2012, etc., so as not to conflict with the European Football Championship.

Re: p.s.

[identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definately a perception thing here; certainly having lived in England and watching the insanity surrounding their National team blurs the actual event. It really doesn't matter WHAT it is, because "England" is playing and they MUST destroy Henry and Ronaldo and... on and on and on it goes on ...

When you've basically had NO exposure to it because of living in the states, and you go to England, and end up in Helsinki where people are enjoying rooting for their favorite team, plus talking to people in other countries (such as Portugese friends, German friends, Italian friends, ... oddly my French friends didn't say anything about it (: ) it just all blurs into one big biennial tournament.

I think I did have questions as to why they didn't have any REAL competitors last time (2 years ago) and I did insist that they needed REAL teams like Brazil, Argentina, Columbia (Ok they've been crap since killing you know who) etc... basically the Spanish speaking American countries.

Re: p.s.

[identity profile] yong-mi.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I did have questions as to why they didn't have any REAL competitors last time (2 years ago) and I did insist that they needed REAL teams like Brazil, Argentina, Columbia (Ok they've been crap since killing you know who) etc... basically the Spanish speaking American countries./

Because Brazil, Argentina, and Colombia would have been playing in Copa America and not Euro 2004? (BTW Brazilians would be bemused to find out they speak Spanish)

Re: p.s.

[identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Naw, they'd just take over Orkutt and post Brazilian Portugese everywhere (:

I'm dealing with lack of sleep here as my apartment is located in Arizona, despite being physically in Helsinki. Don't ask me how that happened, or why it happened NOW and not in January.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (picassohead)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, they're talking about the Italians being punished due to corruption at the moment. Not sure where the Greeks came in.

The Euro championship and the World Cup happen every four years, but there's two years between the Euro and the World Cup.

[identity profile] cheesetruck.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It could be that they won last time and there is a lot of resentment; I don't know. It's been mentioned 3 or 4 times recently with folks talking about FIFA and whatnot. The Italians, no, they haven't been mentioned at all. Whole discussion surrounded that the Greeks aren't apparently allowed in any longer.

On the other hand, it could very well be that it's the Italians being investigated, and since the Greeks beat Portugal last time, and I'm talking to mainly Portugese fans...

probably just resentment (:

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The Greek suspension by FIFA isn't about corruption. It's about interference in the Greek national football association by the Greek government. FIFA demands that football associations be independent of the government. Generally they don't seem to bother to police this (consider certain countries in the Middle East, Africa and elsewhere), but they are coming down hard on Greece. The stance from the Greek government may be summarised as, "Fuck you, FIFA, nobody tells us what to do in Greece."

Last I heard on the Italian thing, it sounds like Juventus will be relegated 2 divisions, and penalised a few points at the start of next season, while a couple of other clubs (AC Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina) will be relegated by one division. A recent story about it is here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5154196.stm).

[identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
> all that's clear is that Materazzi hugs him and grabs his jersey a bit.

The Guardian's minute-by-minute reported Materazzi had grabbed Zidane's nipple and twisted. I didn't see it, even on replay. No idea what exactly precipitated it, but Zidane's headbutt is pretty clear. ESPN's commentators were arguing whether the official should have let it pass, even while Materazzi was on the ground.

That foul and the end of the game were a sad bring-down to what was otherwise a very good weekend of play.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (oops)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
You know, i thought it looked a bit like a titty twister, and others also said they saw it, but i just can't bring myself to believe that Materazzi actually did it.

[identity profile] sweh.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Regardless of titty-twister or whatever was said, Zidane's response was totally out of order and deserved the red card.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
No doubt. He had to be thrown out.

[identity profile] vspope.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
It might have been the most idiotic AND the most awesome thing I've seen on a sports field this year.

[identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
via b3ta (http://www.b3ta.com/board/6109709):
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[identity profile] vspope.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
STOP - HAMMER TIME

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(credit - Soos, SOMETHING AWFUL DOT COM)

[identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Somebody made a brilliant Mortal Kombat-style finishing move, but I'm not linking because I can't find proper credit for it.

[identity profile] erikred.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
all that's clear is that Materazzi hugs him and grabs his jersey a bit.

Materazzi held him back and got a fistful of his jersey. Zidane looked unhappy that the refs didn't call it, but seemed to shrug it off. Then it looked as though Materazzi said something that really pissed Zidane off, and then *wham* right in the chest, like a rhino.

Personally, I hope someone breaks one of Materazzi's legs in the parking lot. That sonovabitch embodies just about everything that's petty and low in professional soccer.

[identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Somebody's spliced together a video of Materazzi's lowest blows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKGcUr0S-FU). Three minutes of unrelenting on-field violence that would be a whole lot more impressive if it wasn't the same half-dozen fouls shown over and over again. I guess my quibble is the nicest guy on the pitch will eventually trash somebody. Edit together anybody's lowlights from a couple years of play and you could get more footage than this. Without following Italian league play I have no idea whether this guy's what they'd call an enforcer in hockey, or just occasionally bitchy.

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Materazzi is one of the best central defenders in Italy. That means he is extremely well paid because he is a sonovabitch.

(Anonymous) 2006-07-10 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"But I understand..." - Chris Rock

[identity profile] zadcat.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've enjoyed your recaps. Thanks for doing them.
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[personal profile] pvaneynd 2006-07-10 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
/me nods

It was nice to compare the comments of the Italian/Belgian and dutch commentators with a non-European (and non-professional) source.


Oh the game yesterday? As we had another Italian over to watch the game I had nice, live and lively commentary in-house. Not to mention a deafening victory yell :-)

[identity profile] tomscud.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Since no one seems to have linked the youtube of the headbutt yet (for posterity):

here it is (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NBV52GPhNjw&feature=Recent&page=6&t=t&f=b)

[identity profile] sandollar17.livejournal.com 2006-07-12 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
The Zidane stuff still makes my heart sad. And France losing was lame, too.