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entombed in the shrine of zeroes and ones ([personal profile] rone) wrote2005-02-14 11:36 pm
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hook `em while they're young

What the fucking fuck.

STAUNTON, Virginia (AP) -- When Heather and Logan Ward's son entered public kindergarten this fall, they were shocked to discover that pupils were taken from class to a nearby church for weekly Bible lessons.

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Jack Hinton, president of the local private group that offers the lessons, attributes the opposition to a small minority, many of them newcomers to the valley. Without religious classes, he said, "kids get into trouble and have no moral structure on which to combat drugs, sex, pornography and all that."
I'm really not feeling witty right now.  I'd rather just throw Bibles at this fuckhead until he achieves enlightenment.

[identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Make sure they're big, heavy ones, with all the Apocrypha.

[identity profile] nothings.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, it's dumb, but at least it's "voluntary half-hour Christian lessons and activities".
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[identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what the article says, but it doesn't explain what's "voluntary" about it. What do the kids who opt out do? Sit by themselves twiddling their thumbs for half an hour?

The article included this quote from a Sunday school teacher:

"I asked them whether Jesus was a Christian and they said 'yes.' When I said, 'Jesus was a Jew,' one girl said, 'But Jesus was a good person,"' Ridell said.

Voluntary or not, it does not sound to me like the Bible lessons are helping matters.

[identity profile] merde.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what the article says, but it doesn't explain what's "voluntary" about it. What do the kids who opt out do? Sit by themselves twiddling their thumbs for half an hour?

it's a peer pressure trick, just like the pledge of allegiance. the students may not be "required" to participate, but all the other kids are going, and they're only little kids, and they want desperately to fit in. how many kindergarteners are sufficiently assertive and socially aware to stand up and say no?

evil. pure, unadulterated evil.

[identity profile] dawn-guy.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder what reason the parents who feel so strongly in favour of the lessons give for not taking the kids to church weekly themselves.

[identity profile] mrbalihai.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd rather just throw Bibles at this fuckhead until he achieves enlightenment

You truly are the Prince of Peace.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (southpark)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, the Bible is love, i'm just showering him with love!!@#!

[identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been to Staunton and have no trouble believing this story.

[identity profile] richtermom.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Kids get opted out for all sorts of personal stuff through schools or outside of school. I was excused for piano classes. A couple kids were excused for speech therapy. Other kids were excused for music classes. Just to exacerbate the question, I know that my first grade school (public) now rents space from my second grade school (Catholic) for their K-4 kids.

I guess I'd be a lot more annoyed if all parents in a public school could agree on a method of teaching kids to be *moral* good citizens instead of pablum sucking humanist egotists who grow up to swear loudly on the city bus, as is the case now. Maybe once the heavy duty fundies are out of the classroom, perhaps a moderate curriculum could be developed for the other kids to discuss how to be good citizens without having an uproar raised about not including religion-specific programming.

[identity profile] denshi.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Once upon a time, indeed a very short while ago, I believe there was such a thing as civics classes.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (picassohead)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I had `em, but that was in Ecuador...

[identity profile] matrushkaka.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, oh, I want in on this. Let's bury them in the ground up to their necks, and then throw Bibles at their heads.

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm an atheist. When do I get all my drugs, sex and parnography?

[identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention "all that".

[identity profile] ltempt.livejournal.com 2005-02-16 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'd much rather throw stone tablets of commandments. More effective.

"THOU SHALT SHUT THE FSCK UP"
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (southpark)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2005-02-16 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, as Spider Jerusalem put it, while hiking up his tunic, "READ MY SCRIPTURE! READ MY FUCKING SCRIPTURE!"