No lie-- Palecur loaned me a CD of theirs, and I returned it saying, "I think some of the melodies and themes are original and interesting... I'd like to hear them when they're more polished on their instruments, y'know, have a few albums under their belt." Palecur responded: "Uhhh, this IS their fourth album." At that point, I decided "Seven Nation Army" was a guilty pleasure and I didn't have to listen to the rest of the band's stuff.